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	<title>Comments on: Quick video using Jokosher, PiTiVi and my Canon digital camera</title>
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	<description>Where the urethane hits the pavement</description>
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		<title>By: Karl Lattimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Lattimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good enough to add to my music videos collection, awesome dude :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good enough to add to my music videos collection, awesome dude <img src='http://www.j5live.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo Pandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laszlo Pandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t consider the lack of samples view/wave graph in Jokosher a &quot;problem&quot;. I have used a sample editor, but Jokosher is definitely not a sample editor which is why we have kept the volume waveform instead of a sample one.

Jokosher is a multitracker and is meant to mix pieces together. Now for j5&#039;s use case it certainty would be helpful to have wave editing capabilities in Jokosher, and we would like to have it integrated with Jokosher for this reason.
We would probably add it if we had time.

It would be a separate window or mode where you can edit a single file that takes up the entire screen and let you fiddle with the samples easily. The current UI shows multiple tracks at once (only 77px each vertically) and was never designed for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t consider the lack of samples view/wave graph in Jokosher a &#8220;problem&#8221;. I have used a sample editor, but Jokosher is definitely not a sample editor which is why we have kept the volume waveform instead of a sample one.</p>
<p>Jokosher is a multitracker and is meant to mix pieces together. Now for j5&#8217;s use case it certainty would be helpful to have wave editing capabilities in Jokosher, and we would like to have it integrated with Jokosher for this reason.<br />
We would probably add it if we had time.</p>
<p>It would be a separate window or mode where you can edit a single file that takes up the entire screen and let you fiddle with the samples easily. The current UI shows multiple tracks at once (only 77px each vertically) and was never designed for that.</p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and it would be possible in marlin, but it would still be awkward...althought would be easy enough to implement, all the required features are there in the code, it would just require some code to glue them together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and it would be possible in marlin, but it would still be awkward&#8230;althought would be easy enough to implement, all the required features are there in the code, it would just require some code to glue them together.</p>
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		<title>By: iain</title>
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		<dc:creator>iain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Unfortunately the solid bar UI which departs from the usual wave graph makes it impossible to do this by hand.&quot;

I pointed this problem out way back when macslow did it initially, but I was ignored. It was clear from his design that he&#039;d never used a sample editor and had no idea what the funny wavey lines actually represented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately the solid bar UI which departs from the usual wave graph makes it impossible to do this by hand.&#8221;</p>
<p>I pointed this problem out way back when macslow did it initially, but I was ignored. It was clear from his design that he&#8217;d never used a sample editor and had no idea what the funny wavey lines actually represented.</p>
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		<title>By: Laszlo Pandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laszlo Pandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow a real user with some real goals. You do not know how rare you are. Would you mind documenting your desired work flow step by step so we can try to optimize the UI for it? 

People keep telling us that Pitivi and Jokosher integration would be awesome but it would be nice to know exactly what should be integrated.

I&#039;m one of the main authors of Jokosher btw. I can&#039;t promise I will have much time for this in the next 6 months but after that I&#039;d love to give the integration a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow a real user with some real goals. You do not know how rare you are. Would you mind documenting your desired work flow step by step so we can try to optimize the UI for it? </p>
<p>People keep telling us that Pitivi and Jokosher integration would be awesome but it would be nice to know exactly what should be integrated.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the main authors of Jokosher btw. I can&#8217;t promise I will have much time for this in the next 6 months but after that I&#8217;d love to give the integration a try.</p>
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