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	<title>Comments on: Public map for the 2009 Gran Canaria Desktop Summit</title>
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	<description>Where the urethane hits the pavement</description>
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		<title>By: Ivan Garcia</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2009/05/15/public-map-for-the-2009-gran-canaria-desktop-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-20320</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It makes more sense to use openstreetmap data. Due that Google Maps API is privative, not opensource. 

It&#039;s very easy, I&#039;ll help you out, OpenStreetMap uses OpenLayers as their javascript map layer engine, you can find easy examples of how to do a mashup of icons(in your case the bed icons) with any layer map behind(openstreetmap).

http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes more sense to use openstreetmap data. Due that Google Maps API is privative, not opensource. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy, I&#8217;ll help you out, OpenStreetMap uses OpenLayers as their javascript map layer engine, you can find easy examples of how to do a mashup of icons(in your case the bed icons) with any layer map behind(openstreetmap).</p>
<p><a href="http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/" rel="nofollow">http://openlayers.org/dev/examples/</a></p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2009/05/15/public-map-for-the-2009-gran-canaria-desktop-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-20318</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 05:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would use an open street map if I could figure out how to create one (all the links on openstreetmap.org that might be useful seem to point me to a place that had google maps).  As it is I was just trying to find a place to stay and the list of hotels on the web site wasn&#039;t a great format so I decided to get more spatially oriented via google maps. Since I had done some work I decided to share it in hopes that others would find it useful.

As for adding this info to the OSM data you should read my post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.j5live.com/2009/02/24/the-economics-of-time-and-effort/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the economics of time and effort&lt;/a&gt;.  If you want someone to become a producer you need to make sure the effort is worth that persons time.  If it is a small effort (like adding locations to google maps) people will probably do it and share their results.  If it means sitting here reading up about map data formats so that I can eventually get a map published around the time GUADEC is over, well you get the idea.

I&#039;m not trying to belittle the open street map effort. Little steps, right?  All I am saying is we need to think about what the user wants instead of what the developer wants.  Heck, even Google Maps isn&#039;t perfect here.  I stopped adding data once I booked a hotel.  However, the barrier was low enough that I started in the first place.  There is a lesson somewhere in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would use an open street map if I could figure out how to create one (all the links on openstreetmap.org that might be useful seem to point me to a place that had google maps).  As it is I was just trying to find a place to stay and the list of hotels on the web site wasn&#8217;t a great format so I decided to get more spatially oriented via google maps. Since I had done some work I decided to share it in hopes that others would find it useful.</p>
<p>As for adding this info to the OSM data you should read my post on <a href="http://www.j5live.com/2009/02/24/the-economics-of-time-and-effort/" rel="nofollow">the economics of time and effort</a>.  If you want someone to become a producer you need to make sure the effort is worth that persons time.  If it is a small effort (like adding locations to google maps) people will probably do it and share their results.  If it means sitting here reading up about map data formats so that I can eventually get a map published around the time GUADEC is over, well you get the idea.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to belittle the open street map effort. Little steps, right?  All I am saying is we need to think about what the user wants instead of what the developer wants.  Heck, even Google Maps isn&#8217;t perfect here.  I stopped adding data once I booked a hotel.  However, the barrier was low enough that I started in the first place.  There is a lesson somewhere in that.</p>
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		<title>By: behdad</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2009/05/15/public-map-for-the-2009-gran-canaria-desktop-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-20317</link>
		<dc:creator>behdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a rather complete map:
http://tinyurl.com/guadec2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a rather complete map:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/guadec2009" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/guadec2009</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kofler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Kofler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1, those locations should really get added to OSM. It already knows some information of that type (hotels, restaurants etc.), so you can just add those venues directly to the OSM data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1, those locations should really get added to OSM. It already knows some information of that type (hotels, restaurants etc.), so you can just add those venues directly to the OSM data.</p>
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		<title>By: Inge Wallin</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2009/05/15/public-map-for-the-2009-gran-canaria-desktop-summit/comment-page-1/#comment-20315</link>
		<dc:creator>Inge Wallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would be much more comfortable if we used OpenStreetMap maps (http://www.openstreetmaps.org/) for this.  Not the least because I know that several people who will be there are fanatic OSM editors (yours truly included).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I would be much more comfortable if we used OpenStreetMap maps (<a href="http://www.openstreetmaps.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.openstreetmaps.org/</a>) for this.  Not the least because I know that several people who will be there are fanatic OSM editors (yours truly included).</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre-Luc Beaudoin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierre-Luc Beaudoin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 18:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about using OpenSource software or services where map data is available under CC? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about using OpenSource software or services where map data is available under CC? <img src='http://www.j5live.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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