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	<title>Comments on: Announcing the Fedora Community Beta Site</title>
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	<description>Where the urethane hits the pavement</description>
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		<title>By: mevlüt şekeri</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19720</link>
		<dc:creator>mevlüt şekeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19684</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Code has been open since the start under GPLv2.  It is in git at fedorahosted.org.  You can also browse the source at https://fedorahosted.org/myfedora/ which I liked to for bug reports but failed to mention also contains everything else. A note of warning, the code will be going through a massive cleanup after Fedora 10 as we make apps a lot easier to create and split out the Moksha backend from the fedora apps.  At that point we should have the Moksha platform project and the Fedora Community apps project with MyFedora going away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Code has been open since the start under GPLv2.  It is in git at fedorahosted.org.  You can also browse the source at <a href="https://fedorahosted.org/myfedora/" rel="nofollow">https://fedorahosted.org/myfedora/</a> which I liked to for bug reports but failed to mention also contains everything else. A note of warning, the code will be going through a massive cleanup after Fedora 10 as we make apps a lot easier to create and split out the Moksha backend from the fedora apps.  At that point we should have the Moksha platform project and the Fedora Community apps project with MyFedora going away.</p>
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		<title>By: Donnie Berkholz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donnie Berkholz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will you be releasing the code once it&#039;s final? Or now? I briefly looked for a link but didn&#039;t find one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will you be releasing the code once it&#8217;s final? Or now? I briefly looked for a link but didn&#8217;t find one.</p>
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		<title>By: bochecha</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19680</link>
		<dc:creator>bochecha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@J5:

Then I just can&#039;t wait to see it happen :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@J5:</p>
<p>Then I just can&#8217;t wait to see it happen :]</p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19679</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bochecha,

That&#039;s the plan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bochecha,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the plan</p>
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		<title>By: bochecha</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19678</link>
		<dc:creator>bochecha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks great !

I don&#039;t know if that&#039;s what supposed to happen in the future, but it would be great it this became some kind of a portal, like netvibes or iGoogle.

There would be lots of widgets, one for any Fedora Application, and each one could choose the ones he wants to see, and where. I, as a package maintainer and ambassador, would like to see informations about builds and marketing issues. An artist would choose different widgets, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks great !</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if that&#8217;s what supposed to happen in the future, but it would be great it this became some kind of a portal, like netvibes or iGoogle.</p>
<p>There would be lots of widgets, one for any Fedora Application, and each one could choose the ones he wants to see, and where. I, as a package maintainer and ambassador, would like to see informations about builds and marketing issues. An artist would choose different widgets, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19677</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I have only tested on FF under Fedora 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I have only tested on FF under Fedora 9.</p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2008/10/28/announcing-the-fedora-community-beta-site/comment-page-1/#comment-19676</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, that is because we are using a self-signed cert for the test deployment.  The production version should have a valid cert like the rest of the infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, that is because we are using a self-signed cert for the test deployment.  The production version should have a valid cert like the rest of the infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: zenwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When opened Fedora site in IW or FF 3.03, it asks for security exceptions stuffs. So i had to add an exception to FF/IW to move on. 

I think this is some kinda security measure which u guys are missed out in u r site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When opened Fedora site in IW or FF 3.03, it asks for security exceptions stuffs. So i had to add an exception to FF/IW to move on. </p>
<p>I think this is some kinda security measure which u guys are missed out in u r site.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike,

We chose TurboGears over Django for *many* reasons, but mainly because we wanted the flexibility and power to utilize the best pre-existing components out there, such as SQLAlchemy, Pylons, ToscaWidgets, Mako/Genshi, etc for various layers of the stack -- without being locked into a gigantic monolithic &#039;reinvent every wheel&#039; framework such as Django.  By being fully WSGI compliant, we are also able to wield a vast plethora of WSGI middleware, such as WebError/repoze.{profile,squeeze,who}/etc.  There is nothing stoping anyone from writing a Moksha application using Django components, but we don&#039;t want to lock people into a specific [subpar] technology from the start.

With regard to the &quot;slowness&quot; of various apps such as bodhi, pkgdb, fas; that is mostly caused by database lag, and also due to the fact that each request to bodhi/pkg triggers a *few* JSON calls to FAS.  In the case of Moksha, we have resolved that issue by utilizing extensive caching of things like credentials, so we don&#039;t have to tax fas every request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike,</p>
<p>We chose TurboGears over Django for *many* reasons, but mainly because we wanted the flexibility and power to utilize the best pre-existing components out there, such as SQLAlchemy, Pylons, ToscaWidgets, Mako/Genshi, etc for various layers of the stack &#8212; without being locked into a gigantic monolithic &#8216;reinvent every wheel&#8217; framework such as Django.  By being fully WSGI compliant, we are also able to wield a vast plethora of WSGI middleware, such as WebError/repoze.{profile,squeeze,who}/etc.  There is nothing stoping anyone from writing a Moksha application using Django components, but we don&#8217;t want to lock people into a specific [subpar] technology from the start.</p>
<p>With regard to the &#8220;slowness&#8221; of various apps such as bodhi, pkgdb, fas; that is mostly caused by database lag, and also due to the fact that each request to bodhi/pkg triggers a *few* JSON calls to FAS.  In the case of Moksha, we have resolved that issue by utilizing extensive caching of things like credentials, so we don&#8217;t have to tax fas every request.</p>
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