Comments on: Why don’t we do this for full desktops? http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/ Where the urethane hits the pavement Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:57:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: J5 http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18741 J5 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:31:02 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18741 mov, Well, I'm just cheerleading here. I wish I had time or artistic ability. But if you do a set (I would start with status and applets) I would use and pimp it. mov,

Well, I’m just cheerleading here. I wish I had time or artistic ability. But if you do a set (I would start with status and applets) I would use and pimp it.

]]> By: J5 http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18740 J5 Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:28:49 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18740 Rob, sorry about that. Fixed :) Rob, sorry about that. Fixed :)

]]> By: mov http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18739 mov Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:10:06 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18739 I agree with you! I can help to make the icons too. I agree with you! I can help to make the icons too.

]]> By: Rob Bradford http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18738 Rob Bradford Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:40:54 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18738 Uh. And you spelt my name wrong :-( Uh. And you spelt my name wrong :-(

]]> By: Rob Bradford http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18736 Rob Bradford Fri, 31 Aug 2007 11:18:27 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18736 Any fuzziness in the screenshot is the result of my scaling it down from the original image. Any fuzziness in the screenshot is the result of my scaling it down from the original image.

]]> By: Nicolas Mailhot http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18735 Nicolas Mailhot Fri, 31 Aug 2007 07:48:51 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18735 A huge reason why OLPC and OpenMoko look crisp is they have a high-dpi display, and their designers expect to have a high-dpi display for use. Unfortunately in the GNOME case we try very very hard to force a 96dpi display even for screens able to do more (going so far as overriding the pixel density X correctly detects, cf the font applet), so we optimise for legacy apps and developper legacy bitmap fonts. Until GNOME is changed to use the highest pixel density hardware exposes by default, forcing app developper to take pixel density changes into account, designers will continue wasting their time on low-res blurry graphics instead of exploring the possibilities of modern hardware (displays>96dpi have been common in laptops for years. Somehow the short-sighted 96-dpi clamp hack made us totally miss the boat on them -> GNOME bug #104341) A huge reason why OLPC and OpenMoko look crisp is they have a high-dpi display, and their designers expect to have a high-dpi display for use.

Unfortunately in the GNOME case we try very very hard to force a 96dpi display even for screens able to do more (going so far as overriding the pixel density X correctly detects, cf the font applet), so we optimise for legacy apps and developper legacy bitmap fonts.

Until GNOME is changed to use the highest pixel density hardware exposes by default, forcing app developper to take pixel density changes into account, designers will continue wasting their time on low-res blurry graphics instead of exploring the possibilities of modern hardware (displays>96dpi have been common in laptops for years. Somehow the short-sighted 96-dpi clamp hack made us totally miss the boat on them -> GNOME bug #104341)

]]> By: Russell Harrison http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18734 Russell Harrison Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:56:25 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18734 I love the look! If everyone did a crisp greyscale icon the colors could be adjusted to match the colors of the panel. It would look very sharp no mater what your color scheme. I love the look! If everyone did a crisp greyscale icon the colors could be adjusted to match the colors of the panel. It would look very sharp no mater what your color scheme.

]]> By: Nigel Tao http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18733 Nigel Tao Thu, 30 Aug 2007 22:24:59 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18733 This reminds me of a little bit of advice about icon design I read long ago, from a forgotten source. It said to first make your icon work (i.e. be instantly recognizable, distinguishable, understandable, etc.) in black and white, and only then add color to enhance a graphic design that is fundamentally sound. This reminds me of a little bit of advice about icon design I read long ago, from a forgotten source. It said to first make your icon work (i.e. be instantly recognizable, distinguishable, understandable, etc.) in black and white, and only then add color to enhance a graphic design that is fundamentally sound.

]]> By: Jakub Steiner http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18732 Jakub Steiner Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:27:03 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18732 To an extent I agree, except the fuzzy set on the screenshot doesn't go well with what you're saying :) The high contrast set certainly deserves more interest than it gets. To an extent I agree, except the fuzzy set on the screenshot doesn’t go well with what you’re saying :)

The high contrast set certainly deserves more interest than it gets.

]]> By: prokoudine http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/30/why-dont-we-do-this-for-full-desktops/comment-page-1/#comment-18731 prokoudine Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:00:09 +0000 http://www.j5live.com/?p=402#comment-18731 Oh come on, Gentle GNOME design proposal was suggesting this kind of icons ~2 years ago :) And noone bothered implementing it :( Oh come on, Gentle GNOME design proposal was suggesting this kind of icons ~2 years ago :) And noone bothered implementing it :(

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