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	<title>Comments on: MP3 for free</title>
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		<title>By: chale12</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-12051</link>
		<dc:creator>chale12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesnt everyone just use the codecs</description>
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		<title>By: chale12</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-12049</link>
		<dc:creator>chale12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wew</description>
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		<title>By: marty</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1984</link>
		<dc:creator>marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please submit sources for mp3 codec

regards,

marty</description>
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<p>regards,</p>
<p>marty</p>
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		<title>By: khaled</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>khaled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 15:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all mp3</description>
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		<title>By: via</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>via</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesnt everyone just use the codecs f- them quit being cowards if they sue you they sue you.. they  would run out of resources if everyone blatantly used it and said &quot;just sue me&quot; i dont care what you say but the money will  STILL end up in the pockets of m$ and the like in the end and i REFUSE to support them in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesnt everyone just use the codecs f- them quit being cowards if they sue you they sue you.. they  would run out of resources if everyone blatantly used it and said &#8220;just sue me&#8221; i dont care what you say but the money will  STILL end up in the pockets of m$ and the like in the end and i REFUSE to support them in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rene</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1906</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as it is only a decoder and it only works with gstreamer, I don&#039;t think it will have a lot of impact for a long time.
It requires someone to code a decent player program which uses gstreamer. That hasn&#039;t even been possible yet, but the latest release show some progress being made. Maybe in some day it will escape its roots of being a streaming framework and start being a media framework.
As long as it only decodes you&#039;ll mostly always need to install something which encodes anyway. I must admit, that I wouldn&#039;t even bother installing it on any of the machines I help people with (non technical friends). When I see a program which proves that gstreamer is improved to be useful and maybe a &quot;killer app&quot; comes along that might change. Free WMV, Mov and RM player plugins might be the basis for such an app.

It&#039;s a nice gesture by flumotion, but useful in business settings primarily I think. Home users just don&#039;t care. You&#039;d need a lawyer to nag you everytime you played an mp3.

The long term solution is ogg (and free codecs in genereal) support for hardware and software becoming prevalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as it is only a decoder and it only works with gstreamer, I don&#8217;t think it will have a lot of impact for a long time.<br />
It requires someone to code a decent player program which uses gstreamer. That hasn&#8217;t even been possible yet, but the latest release show some progress being made. Maybe in some day it will escape its roots of being a streaming framework and start being a media framework.<br />
As long as it only decodes you&#8217;ll mostly always need to install something which encodes anyway. I must admit, that I wouldn&#8217;t even bother installing it on any of the machines I help people with (non technical friends). When I see a program which proves that gstreamer is improved to be useful and maybe a &#8220;killer app&#8221; comes along that might change. Free WMV, Mov and RM player plugins might be the basis for such an app.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a nice gesture by flumotion, but useful in business settings primarily I think. Home users just don&#8217;t care. You&#8217;d need a lawyer to nag you everytime you played an mp3.</p>
<p>The long term solution is ogg (and free codecs in genereal) support for hardware and software becoming prevalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicu</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1905</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 08:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I have a solution: include as default mp3 gstreamer plugin in Fedora a stub. This will display a window with something like:

&quot;Due to patent restriction, Fedora can&#039;t include code for mp3 playback, we recommend to use Ogg Vorbis instead.
However, if you *really* need mp3 playback, click here to download and install a free binary from Fluendo.&quot;

I think this is the best compromise: still promote  Ogg Vorbis, Fedora remain not patent encumbered and users have a way to hear their mp3 files (and the possibility to convert them to another format - as the Fluendo plugin is only a *decoder*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have a solution: include as default mp3 gstreamer plugin in Fedora a stub. This will display a window with something like:</p>
<p>&#8220;Due to patent restriction, Fedora can&#8217;t include code for mp3 playback, we recommend to use Ogg Vorbis instead.<br />
However, if you *really* need mp3 playback, click here to download and install a free binary from Fluendo.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is the best compromise: still promote  Ogg Vorbis, Fedora remain not patent encumbered and users have a way to hear their mp3 files (and the possibility to convert them to another format &#8211; as the Fluendo plugin is only a *decoder*)</p>
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		<title>By: J5</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1904</link>
		<dc:creator>J5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is so not true.  How many people do you know care enough to boycott mp3?  No one cares, they just want to listen to their music.  You wouldn&#039;t even make a dent and the propriatary formats would just steam roller over all of us.  By embracing the codecs in legal ways, gaining respect from both the Open Source camp and the business camp, Fluendo can start selling their Flumotion server, and hey it supports ogg out of the box.  Perhaps then we will see more media outlets supporting the format.

We need to crawl before we walk and walk before we run.  Trying to skip to the running stage and you will find we are going no where fast.  I want to support Fluendo because I know they are the ones who are going to take a careful look at the industry and figure out the best ways to move us to open formats.  Offering up a legal mp3 codec is just the start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so not true.  How many people do you know care enough to boycott mp3?  No one cares, they just want to listen to their music.  You wouldn&#8217;t even make a dent and the propriatary formats would just steam roller over all of us.  By embracing the codecs in legal ways, gaining respect from both the Open Source camp and the business camp, Fluendo can start selling their Flumotion server, and hey it supports ogg out of the box.  Perhaps then we will see more media outlets supporting the format.</p>
<p>We need to crawl before we walk and walk before we run.  Trying to skip to the running stage and you will find we are going no where fast.  I want to support Fluendo because I know they are the ones who are going to take a careful look at the industry and figure out the best ways to move us to open formats.  Offering up a legal mp3 codec is just the start.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.j5live.com/2005/12/24/mp3-for-free/comment-page-1/#comment-1903</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OTOH, the more people that use the systems but don&#039;t pay the royalties, the less companies like Fraunhofer will consider their current (ridiculous IP farming) business model to be viable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OTOH, the more people that use the systems but don&#8217;t pay the royalties, the less companies like Fraunhofer will consider their current (ridiculous IP farming) business model to be viable.</p>
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