Comments on: Python in GNOME

By: Ivan

Ivan — Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:22:27 +0000

cs: That doesn’t mean that Azureus is more popular than BitComet, as BC is not hosted on SF. Generally speaking, the majority is using BitComet, Check your peer list when you BT. In terms of performance it outperforms the other clients a lot. In terms of functionality it has what most users need.

When the data rate is high enough (e.g. 600kByte/s), BC affects performance of foreground applications (e.g. IE, VS, etc.) far less than Azureus.

By: cs

cs — Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:58:08 +0000

Tony: in times where supermarket computers come with 1 gb ram, most people prefer features over a low memory footprint. that’s why azureus is always on sourceforge’s top10 list

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 27 Jun 2005 05:58:28 +0000

JC Jones, you have to be kidding? Azureus is worst, it uses a lot of memory.

By: Simon

Simon — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:10:20 +0000

I agree with Alan – why is EoG considered irrelevant? Is there some other image viewer included with Gnome that I’m not aware of?

By: JC Jones

JC Jones — Sun, 26 Jun 2005 17:18:25 +0000

Tony, the best bit torrent client I have found is called Azureus: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

It is written in Java.

By: Alan Horkan

Alan Horkan — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:47:33 +0000

ingo I thought Eog was the Image Viewer in Nautilus? Did something change?

Also I thought Python could be compiled instead of interpreted to help improve performance in certain circumstances?

By: Tony

Tony — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:50:06 +0000

This is a big mistake. Check torrent clients for the best example. None of based Python, Java or any higher level language of torrent clients have manage to get low overhead, use less CPU and RAM. Any C/C++ based of torrent clients have whoops on based Python and other higher level language very far in no question.

C/C++ can be easy maintain if you write it cleaner and not make it complicate. Think simple and write it simple. If you want EOG in python, you are supposed to have one in C core and other one that is Python binding (EOG-python). C is very easy to have very many other languages binding.

By: ingo

ingo — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 13:08:57 +0000

language issues aside, please improve the image viewer in nautilus instead. it is far more usefull.

apart from that, i wonder if a useless app in python might not be a bad example instead of a good one. lets come up with a better idea

By: Peter GrundstrÃ¶m

Peter GrundstrÃ¶m — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 12:21:35 +0000

Gnome will have a very hard time surviving if we only allow applications written in c. If don’t embrase higer-level languages like python and java we’ll end up losing a lot of developers. IMHO we should write our core libararies and functionality in c, but leave end-user applications to languages like python.

EoG is a perfecly good test case. If we rewrote it in python we would have a app that is easy to develop and maintain, that uses a c-written libarary for the imaging-tasks. It would be the same, just different

By: ac

ac — Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:06:33 +0000

So be a brave boy then and start rewriting your own programs in Python. I am happy to see the amount of people afterwards who may use a Python version of DBUS for example. I doubt anyone will ever touch it. I for my own believe that it’s better to have one language being used throughly inside GNOME rather than 5 different ones. Python is by far to overhyped and it’s getting much more attention than neccesary. Rewriting apps in python offers yet again a solution for a problem that doesn’t exist.